The origins of my great-great-grandfather, Johann Michael Clur (1830-1902), have long been a mystery. I had already managed to establish that he came to South Africa between January and February 1857 as a British German Legionary and as far as we know, a bachelor. After I requested a copy of his death certificate from the National Archives of South Africa, I was able (with the help of Wilfried Visser), to decipher that Johann Michael was born in “Welscheneireit near Carlsruhe Baden Germany”. Johann Michael Clur – 1830-1902
This gave me a place to start looking. A genealogical friend of mine once said, “when stuck, go for a road trip”. In this case a boat trip along the Palatinate part of the Rhine River on a drizzly day, listening to stories of castles built and destroyed, and the siren at Loreley luring captains to sink their ships as they sailed by, all helped to conjure up some nostalgia and motivation. By chance, while having lunch in St. Goarshausen and wondering how far Welschneureut was from where we were, and if a visit would be feasible, I happened upon a book documenting the church records of Welschneureut between 1699 and 1809. This book has proven invaluable in my reconstruction of the Welschneureut Clur family tree. With its help I managed to trace the Clurs back 10 generations to Clorius Clur from Bern, Switzerland and his son Nicolas Clour who married Susanna Clour, born T(h)ibaud(t). Her family was part of the colony of Neureut. Welschneureut Church Records. Welschneureut Germany 1700-1809 by Cathryn S. Dippo. Heritage Books 2018 and Friedrichstal Church Records 1698-1812 by Cathryn S. Dippo. Heritage Books 2005.
Neureut in Germany can trace its origin back to 1260 having been founded during the rule of Rudolf I, Margrave of Baden-Baden. Being located on the Rhine River it was vulnerable to plundering and invasions by soldiers which occurred on numerus occasions over the years, especially in the 17th century. Not only the Thirty Years War (1618-1648) but also the War of Palatine Succession in the latter part of the century, caused many to flee leaving the village essentially abandoned. As a consequence, Markgraf Friedrich Magnus invited the persecuted, French speaking Calvinists-Huguenots, Walloons and Waldensians to help repopulate the land. In 1699, 58 families arrived. Their colony was called Welschneureut to distinguish it from the original German-speaking village which became Teutschneureut. By the early 19th century Welschneureut had 291 inhabitants and Teutschneureut 625. In 1835 they were incorporated into one municipal entity. (See also Johann Michael Clur – 1830-1902 and Visiting Welschneureut and Friedrichstal). Neureut (Karlsruhe) – Wikipedia
Between 1699-1809, 12 pastors worked in Welschneureut, the first two were French, the next eight Swiss, and then two came from Palatine. This means that the church documentation is in different languages and dialects, abbreviations were often used and the spelling is inconsistent. I have tried to record the spelling as it was recorded, so variation may be seen within the description of the same person. In the French era the surname was written as CLOUR, but this later become CLUR and KLUR, and on occasion CLOURS, CLAIR, CLOUS and CLAUS was recorded, (maybe the latter were transcription/ notation errors). Females were frequently given an additional ‘in’ at the end of their surnames in registrations, so that the names CLOURIN and KLURIN appear often. CLÜR can be seen in some records after 1800. Names of people changed in the entries according to the language used so that for example, Jean Henri Clour in the French period became Johann Heinrich Clour in the Swiss period, making it difficult to be sure one was dealing with the same person. Also, not infrequently the second name was used and not the first name in a seemingly arbitrary way.
The first church and parsonage in Welschneureut was probably built in 1712 – “l’Eglises Reformée de Mahlberg et Neüreüth Teres”. In 1724 the colonists created their own cemetery. From November 1699 till 1700 their dead were buried in Mühlburg and from 1700 to 1724 in Teutschnuereut. At the South Cemetery in Welschneureut some French (Waldensian) surnames can still be seen including Clour. Friedrichstal church, in the village of Friedrichstal, was not very far from Welschnuereut and some Cl(o)urs are also documented in that church’s records, as marriages between the villages were not uncommon. http://www.peter-hartleb.de/Exkursionen/Karlsruhe/Neureut/Neureut.html See also Visiting Welschneureut and Friedrichstal
On the right : Coat of arms of Friedrichstal Friedrichstal – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
NOTE: ** denotes my direct relatives in the following text
I believe that **Clorius Clour (c. 1670 – ?) is my direct ancestor going back 10 generations, with a line of descent as follows:-
Clorius Clour (c.1670-?) -> Nicolas Clour (c.1690-1724) –> Henry Jacob Clour (c.1720-1753) –> Christian Clour (1750-1794) -> Johann Michael Clour (1780-1825) -> Catharina Clour(1806-1848) -> Johann Michael Clur (1830-1902) -> Carl Friedrich Clur (1861-1913) -> Alwin Bernard Clur (1907-1987) -> Dennis Alwin Clur (1930-2003) -> Sally-Ann Clur (1963 to present).
In the following text the following families will be discussed:
- **Nicolas Clour (c. 1690 – 1724) and **Susanna Tibaud (?1692-1757).
- ** Henry (Jacob) Clour (c. 1720-1753) and **Anne Marie Rothacker
- ** Christian Clour (1750 – 1794), (son of Henry (Jacob) Clour (c. 1720-1753)), and **Johana Margaretha Crocol (Crocollin)
- Joh. Heinrich Clour (Ev. Ref) (1754 – 1800), (son of Henry (Jacob) Clour (c. 1720-1753)), and Catharina (Kathrina) Barbara Grossmännin (Ev. Luth) (c. 1756 – 29th June 1803)
- Christian Clour (1774 – 1846), (son of Christian Clour (1750 – 1794)), and Mar. Margaretha Buchleiterin (? – ?)
- ** Johann Michaël Clour (1780 – 1825), (son of Christian Clour (1750 – 1794)), and **Katarina Raupin (c.1782 – ?)
- ** Catharina Clour (1806-1848), (daughter of Johann Michael Clour (1780 – 1825)).(See also **Johann Michael Clur – 1830-1902)
- Johann Michael Clour (1814 – 1867), (son of Johann Michael Clour (1780 – 1825)), and Katarina Boeuf (1818 – 1837)
**Nicolas Clour (c. 1690 – 1724) and **Susanna Tibaud (?1692-1757).
**Nicolas (Nicolaus) Clour and his wife **Susanna Clour born Tibaud(t) /Tibaat/Fibaud/Tilband/Tiband lived in Welschneureut. Nicolas was the son of **Clorius Clur a “native” of the Canton of Bern (Switzerland). Nicolas married Susanne, daughter of **Jean Pierre Thibaut and **Eva his wife, of the colony of Neyret, on the 27th June 1713 in Friedrichstal. (Page 77 of Book 1 of the Friedrichstal Church Records). Eva(e)’s surname was Colom(b)/ Conloms.
Susanna’s family was one of the original 58 families that came to Welschneureut in 1699. Her father, Jean Pierre Thibaut‘s name is listed as number 13 in a list of original Waldesian families that settled in Welschneureut that can be seen on the corner of Neureut Hauptstrasse and Welschneureuterstrasse today. No Clour can be found in that list. Number 57 is listed as “unknown”, so one wonders if this could have been Clorius Clour’s family. However, as his son Nicolas married in the Friedrichstal Church, this may suggest that his family resided there and not in Welschneureut. Oskar Hornung, in his book Friedrichstal Geschichte einer Hugenotten-Gemeinte page 167, suggests that Clorius Clour lived some years in Bern, and lists the name Clour as a Waldesian name among the early settlers in Friedrichstal on page 169. Friedrichstal was established at the end of 1699. This makes me believe that Clorius Clur was one of the second wave of Huguenots who fled France mostly from the Dauphin, Cévennes and Languedoc regions, before and after the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes in 1685 by Louis XIV. This act prohibited the existence of Protestant worship in France. The refugees arrived in Switzerland initially, where they were granted asylum in Helvetian cantons such as Zurich and Bern, however they were later relocated to Germany, Holland and England.
I do not know Nicolas’ birth date, but I think he must have been born circa 1690. Nicolas died on the 28th December 1724 and was buried the next day. Another record says that he died on the 27th February 1725 and was buried the next day. Yet another gives his date of death and burial as the 8th and 9th September 1721 respectively. Somewhere herein lies the truth. I am lead to believe that Susanna was born in 1692 and died in 1757. Together, they had at least 10, possibly 11 children.
Children of Nicolas Clour and Susanna Thibaud:
- Anne (19th September 1715 – ? before March 1716)
- Christened on first Sunday after her birth, Godparents: “N.N.”
- Born November according to Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-PY8Q. This seems unlikely considering the birth of the next Anne in March 1716.
- Anne (March 1716 – ? before 1717)
- Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-PY8Q
- Anne Barb (1717 – 25th August 1740, aged 25)
- Christened March 1717
- Buried 26th August 1740, (or 26th October according to Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-PY8Q : 19 May 2023
- Note: it appears that Anne Barb may have died during her lying-in period after childbirth.
- Her newborn illegitimate daughter Anne Barbe was christened 25th August 1740. The father was recored as “Un Grenadier”. Godparents present were: Henry Charles Renaud, son of Paul Renaud of Welschneureut, George Wilhelm Albrecht, Barb Albrecht and a Swiss girl. Anne Brab’s daughter died on the 16th September and was buried on the 17th September 1740. Note: These dates don’t match up as the baby was 24 hours old when she died, possibly then the child died in August, or her mother died in September.
- Christian (April 1718 – 3rd August 1767) –
- Christened in 1720, Godfather: Christian Rothacker. He was baptized in April 1718 according to Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-PY8Q.
- Participated in the 1751 Easter communion.
- Christian married Marie Racine (c. 1712-1778) on the 10th September 1739. He was described as born and resident in Welschneureut. Marie was described as the legitimate daughter of Jean Pierre Racin also living in Welschneureut and a member of the Church of Neüreüt.
- Their daughter, Susanne Marguerit(h)e (9th March 1743 – 12th February 1786), was christened on the 17th March 1743. Godparents: Henry Charles Renaud, Susanne Racine, Frederic Durand and Rachel Margrithe Racine. She also participated in 1751 Easter communion. She married Hans Georg Buchleiter a (?black)smith and they had 4 daughters. She was a house wife and died aged 45 years. She was buried on the 14th February 1786.
- Christiaan died at the age of 49 years and 6 months
- He was buried on the 6th August 1767.
- Jeanne Marie Racine, Christian’s widow, died on the 30th December 1778 at the age of 66 years, 2 months and 3 days. She was buried on the 31st December 1778.
- Marie Barbe (May 1719 – ?)
- Christened 1719, Godfather: Christian Rothacker
- ** Henri Jacob (Henry Jaques/ Heinrich) (circa 1720 -1753)
- Christened 19th May 1720; Godparents: **Jacob Rothacker and Henry N.N and Jeanne Tibaud
- See **Henry (Jaques) Clour (c. 1720-1753) and **Anne Marie Rothacker below)
- Jean Phillipe (8th September 1721 – 8th September 1721)
- Christened 1721; Godfather: Jean Phillipe
- Buried 9th September 1721.
- Note: he was 6 weeks old when he died, so the given birth date may be incorrect, possibly he was born end July 1721?
- Catherine (July 1722 – ?)
- Christened 1722; Godparents: Jean Phillipe and his wife
- Francois CLAIR (1722 – ?)
- Note: no mother mentioned
- “Un enfant” Anne (21st February 1723 – ?)
- Christened 27th February 1723, Godparents: Abraham Baraire and Anne Calmet Fille
- Jean Abraham (April 1724 – ?)
- Christened April 1724. Godparents: Abraham Guillot and his wife, and Jean Calmet and Marguerithe Pansû
A daughter of Nicolas and Susanna died on the 27th February 1725 and was buried on the 28th. This could have been one of the Anne’s, probably “un enfant” Anne, but could also have been the Anne of 1715 or 1716, or Catherine.
There is also mention of an Anne Barbe Christened 27th August 1736, born to Anne Clour and Jean Noe Bellet; Godparents: Jaques Louis Racine, Anne Crocol and Christian Clour. This suggests that one of the Annes of 1715, 1716 or 1723 survived childhood, or that this was also a child of Anne Barb.
A Thomas Clour’s, (former inhabitant of Neret) widow, Catharine Preis married Martin Ritz, widow and resident of Friedrichstal, on the 7th August 1736 in Friedrichstal (Page 93 of Book 1 of the Friedrichstal Church Records). One wonders if Thomas was Nicolas’ brother, or possibly his uncle.
Welschneureut Church Records. Pages 27; 56; 57; 60; 65; 67; 93; 103; 126; 359; 360; 361; 362; 376; 408 and 150; 159; 163; 171; 291; 477; 485; 503. Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-PYXN. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-1D6F. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-2Z4Y. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-19FN The Huguenot Refuge in Switzerland | Musée protestant (museeprotestant.org)
** Henry (Jacob) Clour (c. 1720-1753) and **Anne Marie Rothacker
Henry Clour, the legitimate son of the late **Nicolas Clour and was christened on the 19th May 1720. His godparents were **Jacob Rothacker, Henry N.N and **Jeanne Tibaud. He married **Anna Maria Rothacker, the legitimate daughter of the late **Jacob Rothacker, a former member of the Church of Neüreüt, on the 31st January 1774.
Children of Henry (Jaques) Clour and Anne Marie Rothacker:
- Jean Henri (4th June 1748 – ?before 1754)
- Christened 9th March 1743, Godparents: Jean Racine and wife Susanne Casabone and Paul Henry Charles Renaud, son of Paul Renaud and Charlotte Rothacker
- Participated in the Easter Communion in 1751
- ** Christian (13th September 1750 – 19th March 1794)
- Christened 15th September 1750, Godparents: Christian Clour and his wife Jean Marie Racine
- See **Christian Clour (1750 – 1794), (son of **Henry (Jacob) Clour (c. 1720-1753)), and **Johana Margaretha Crocol (Crocollin) below
- Jean Henry (January 1754 – 22nd December 1800)
- Christened 27th January 1754, Godparents: Christian Clour and his wife Jean Marie Racine, and Henry Charles Renaud and his wife Susanne Racine.
- Jean Henry’s father died before his birth.
- He died at the age of 46 years and 11 months.
- Buried on the 24th December 1800.
“Spurie” Maria Magdalena (23rd December 1766 – 26th December 1766 and buried 27th December 1766) and Maria Catharina (23rd December 1766 – 27th December 1766 and buried 28th December 1766), were illegitimate twins born to widow Anne Marie Clour and Michael Gutknecht, a day labourer from Alsace. The babies were christened on the 24th December 1766. The godparents were Zacharie Beouf, Hans Georg Dunklin, Magdalena Lipphartin and Catharina Wumin. Anne Marie later married Michael Gutknecht.
Welschneureut Church Records. Pages 116; 121; 126; 146; 258; 407; 444
** Christian Clour (1750 – 1794), (son of **Henry (Jacob) Clour (c. 1720-1753)), and **Johana Margaretha Crocol (Crocollin)
Christian was born on the 13th September 1750 and christened on the 15th September 1750. His godparents were Christian Clour and his wife Jean Marie Racine. He worked as an attorney and judge, as well as a carpenter. Christian, was described as “the bereaved son of **Heinrich Clous” when he married Margaretha, daughter of **Jean Crocols, on the 11th March 1773. He had 13 children with **Johana Margaretha Crocol (Crocollin/ Crocolin), 8 of whom died in childhood. Christian died on the 19th March 1794 at the age of 43 years, 6 months and 6 days of “Faulfieber” (foul fever) or Typhus. He was buried on the 21st March 1794. Looking at the death records it appears that there was an outbreak of Typhus in 1794 in Welschneureut.
Children of Christian Clour and Johana Margaretha Crocol:
- Johanna Margaretha (22nd March 1774 – 29th March 1773)
- Christened 25th March 1774, Godparents: Georg Crocol and wife Marg. Barb. Bek, Andres Angelberger and wife Rosina Schnürlein.
- Died aged 8 days. Note the inconsistency of the years. Possibly the birth and christening years should be 1773, not 1774. Cathryn Dippo made a similar comment in her book. This makes more sense considering that Christian was born in May 1774.
- Buried 30th March 1773.
- Christian (16th May 1774 – 23rd April 1846)
- Christened 20th May 1774, Godparents: Georg Crocol and wife Barbara Bek. NB: Mother is noted as Jean Marg Crocol. Note children too close together in birth dates or birth dates are incorrect.
- Johanna Margaretha (30th August 1776 – 1838).
- Christened 1st September 1776, Godparents: Georg Crocol and wife Barbara Bek, Abraham Crocol from Friedrichstal and wife Charlotta Roux.
- Married Heinrich David Mounier (Müller)
- Their first child, Heinrich born in 1797, died on the 27th March 1800 at the age of 3 years, 2 months and 2 weeks of “Blatern”, Smallpox. He was buried on the 28th March 1800.
- Anna Maria Barbara (1st February 1778 – 27th February 1778), Died aged 27 days
- Christened 3rd February 1778, Godparents: Georg Crocol and Abraham Crocol with their wives.
- Buried 28th February 1778
- Georg Heinrich (13th March 1779 at 11 o’clock in the night – 9th March 1782)
- Christened 16th March 1779, Godparents: **Catrina Albrechtin for the bereaved widow **Jean Crocol, the child’s grandmother, Michael Gutknecht the child’s step-grandfather, Georg Crocol and his wife.
- Died aged 3 years and 4 days and was buried on the 10th March 1782.
- ** Joh. Michael (21st February 1780 at 11 o’clock in the night – ?)
- Christened 25th February 1780, Godparents: Georg Crocol and wife, Michael Gutknecht, **Cathrina Crocol born Albrecht.
- Noted as deceased but no date of death given.
- See **Johann Michael Clour (1780 – ?), (son of **Christian Clour (1750 – 1794)), and **Katarina Raupin below
- Cathr. Barbara (8st April 1783 at 9 o’clock in the morning – 25th April 1853)
- Christened 11th April 1783, Godparents: Georg Crocol and wife, Michael Gutknecht, **Cathr. Crocol born Albrechtin. Noted as deceased.
- Note mother is listed as Margretha Crocol.
- Married Joh. Peter Durand a former Musketeer and son of Johannes Durand and Elisabetha Girion on Saturday the 4th December 1803. It was also recorded that Katarina Barbara Clourin was already nearly half way through a pregnancy when they married.
- Peter, child of Katarina Clour and Peter Durand, local resident and soldier of the “electorate”, was born on the 25th October 1805 at two thirty in the afternoon. He was christened on the 27th October 1805. Godparents: **Johann Clour local citizen and carpenter and his wife **Catarina Raupin, and Jacob Feyerer local citizen and carpenter and his wife Maria Catarina from Knielingen. Peter died at 2 in the morning on the 11th April 1808 of Tuberculosis. He was 2 years and 6 months old. He was buried on the 12th April 1808.
- Anna Maria (29th December 1784 – ?)
- Christened 1st January 1784, Godparents: Michael Gutknecht, Georg Crocol and their wives, **Katrina Albrechtin the child’s grandmother.
- Note: mother is listed as Margretha Crocol/ Crocolin.
- married Peter Gros, the 27 year old son of local resident and judge Paul Grossen and his wife Susanna born Renaud, on the 21st September 1806
- Child Catharina Gros (6th June 1809 – 11 November 1822)
- Barbara (9th September 1786 – 22nd August 1790)
- Christened 10th September 1786; Godparents: Michael Gutknecht, Georg Crocol and their wives, **Katrina Albrechtin the child’s grandmother.
- Note: mother is listed as Margr. Crocol/ Crocolin.
- Died at the age of 4 years, less 2 weeks and 4 days of “Blatern”- smallpox.
- Buried on 23rd August 1790.
- Georg Jakob (9th March 1788 – 25th February 1800)
- Christened 10th March 1788, Godparents: Georg Crocol, Michael Gutknecht and their wives, **Katerina Crocolin born Albrechtin the child’s grandmother.
- Died at the age of 12 years and 12 days of “Flekfieber”, Typhus
- Buried on the 27th February.
- Joh. Heinrich (10th January 1790 – 22nd May 1793)
- Christened 11th January 1790, Godparents: Georg Crocol, Michael Gutknecht and their wives, **Kathrina Crocolin born Albrechtin the child’s grandmother.
- Died at the age of 3 years, 18 weeks and 6 days of “Stekfluss”
- Buried on 24th May 1792.
- Barbara (15th December 1791 – ?)
- Christened 18th December 1791, Godparents: Georg Crocol, Michael Gutknecht and their wives. Noted as deceased but no date given.
- Freidrich (10th April 1793 – 24th February 1798)
- Christened 14th April 1793, Godparents: Georg Crocol, Michael Gutknecht and their wives.
- Died at the age of 4 years, 10 months and 2 weeks of “Auszehrung” (consumption) Tuberculosis.
- Buried on 25th February 1798.
Johanna Margaretha Croccollin, went on to have another baby “Spurius” Friedrich (21st March 1798 – ?) after Christian had died. He was christened on the 22nd March 1798. The godparents were Georg Crocol and his wife. The child’s father is listed as Josef Fetterlin a Palatine soldier. Noted as deceased.
Welschneureut Church Records. Pages 107; 125; 157; 159; 162; 167; 170; 172; 178; 180; 186; 187; 189; 193;209; 253; 275; 298; 411; 420; 421; 426; 427; 430; 433; 434: 439; 441; 454; 480
Joh. Heinrich Clour (Ev. Ref) (1754 – 1800), (son of **Henry (Jacob) Clour (c. 1720-1753)), and Catharina (Kathrina) Barbara Grossmännin (Ev. Luth) (c. 1756 – 29th June 1803)
Katarina Barbara Grossmännin was the illegitimate child of Maria Catarina Matthesin of Güglingen and a Mr. Grossmänn. Katarina was married to Heinrich Clour for 21 years. Together they had 3 children, who all died. This meant that when she died, on Wednesday 29th June 1803 at 3 o’clock in the morning, at the age of 47 years, the family fortune fell to her heirs. She gave the Reformed Church 50 fl on the condition that they accept a Lutheran. After having confessed, she was buried in the local churchyard in Neureuth next to her husband, who was a Reformist. She bequeathed a baptismal kit to the local Lutherens and it was kept at the local Townhouse.
Children of Johann Heinrich Clour and Katarina Grossmännin :-
- Joh. Heinrich (4th August 1778 at 2 o’clock in the morning – ?)
- Christened 9th August 1778, Godparents: Zacharias Beouf, Joh. Georg Schmidt and their wives. Noted as deceased.
- Maria Catharina Clour – (27th April 1782 – 24th July 1789)
- Baptized 30th April 1782
- Buried 26th July 1789, aged 7
- Hs (?Hans) Georg (24th November 1787 – 6th November 1787)
- Christened 9th August 1778, Godparents: Zacharias Beouf and his wife, Hs Georg Buchleiter senior. Marggreth Krausin, born Bommer.
- Died at the age of 3 weeks and 5 days
- Buried on the 21st November 1787
- Records
- Welschneureut Church Records. Pages 5; 150; 159; 163; 447
- Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971,” database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDR-9R7P : 17 March 2023), Maria Catharina Clour, 30 Apr 1782; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Teutschneureut, Bezirksamt Karlsruhe, Kreis Karlsruhe, Republik Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971,” database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDL-DTJZ : 27 October 2021), Marie Catharine Clour, 26 Jul 1789; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Teutschneureut, Karlsruhe, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
Christian Clour (1774 – 1846), (son of **Christian Clour (1750 – 1794)), and Mar. Margaretha Buchleiterin (? – ?)
Christian Clour was the legitimate son of **Christian Clours and **Jeanne Margretha born Croccollin. He was born on the 16th May 1774 and died on the 23rd April 1846. He married Maria Margaretha Buchleiterin, the legitimate daughter of Hs (?Hans) Gerg Buchleiters and Susanna Margr. born Clourin, on the 13th March 1798. Christian was described as a “carpenter and churchwarden.”
Children of Christian Clour and Maria Margaretha Buchleiterin:-
- Christian (28th August 1799 – 31st January 1800)
- Christened 29th August 1799, Godparents: Danj Marche and his wife.
- Died at the age of 5 months and 3 days of “Blater”, Smallpox
- Buried on the 1st February 1800
- Christian (24th May 1801 – 10thJanuary 1769)
- Christened 25th May 1801, Godparents: Danjel Marche, Christof Weinhart and their wives, Johann Clour, Barabara Grossin.
- NOTE: 1769 is not possible as his date of death, I think possibly 1869 was meant.
- Johann (21st August 1803 – ?)
- Christened 23th August 1803, Godparents: Daniel Marche (brother in law of the child’s father), Kristoph Weinhard and their respective wives Catarina (sister of the child’s mother) and Maria born Erbin from Hagsveld.
- NOTE: marked as deceased.
- Heinrich (14th March 1807 at midday – 25th March 1836)
- Christened 15th March 1807, Godparents: Anna Maria Weinhartin, widow of Christoph Weinhart, **Johann Clour local citizen and carpenter, brother of the child’s father, his wife **Catarina Raupin, and Danial Marche local citizen and brother in law of the father of the child.
- Katharina Clour (? – 1810).
- Welschneureut Church Records. Pages 212; 217; 441; 454; 464; 490
** Johann Michaël Clour (1780 – 1825), (son of **Christian Clour (1750 – 1794)), and **Katarina Raupin (c.1782/7 – 31 Aug 1854)
**Johann Michaël was born on the 21st February 1780 at 11 o’clock in the night and christened on the 25th February 1780. His godparents were Georg Crocol and wife, and Michael Gutknecht, **Cathrina Crocol born Albrecht. He died on the 3rd August 1825 at the age of 44 years. Of note the name Clur (Clour) is used on his death record.
On Tuesday 13th March 1804 **Johann Michaël Clur, “an aspiring citizen and master carpenter”, the legitimate son of **Christian Clour, former local advocate, and **Joanna Margaretha, born Crocoll, married **Katarina Raupin from Rintheim (Lutheren), the legitimate unmarried daughter of **Jacob Raups former Rintheim and his wife **Eva Elisabeth born Palmerin, (alias “Palmar”). Another record of this event lists Jakob Raups wife as **Anna Catharina (see below). Johann Michael Clour was 23 years old and Katarina was 21 and 1/2 when they married making Katarina’s birth year circa 1782. Katarina’s death notice records her date of death as 31st August 1854, (burial on 3rd September 1854). Her age at death was given as 67 making her birth year 1787, not 1782. Probably the former is more correct.
Nine months after their marriage, their son Johann Michaël was born on the 26th December 1804 at 2 o’clock in the afternoon. Johann was christened on the 28th December 1804 and his godparents were Christian Clour, local carperter and “brother of the mother of the child” and his wife Margaretha born Buchleiterin. This record is incorrect as Christian was the brother of the father of the child, not the mother. Johann Michaël Clür was recorded as deceased but no date of death was given. There is another record of a death of Johanna Michael Clour, son of Michael Clour and Katharina Raupin, in 1813 making him 9 years old at the time of his death.
Another Johann Michael Clour was born to Johann Michael and Katharina Raupp, on the 14th December 1814 and christened on the 25th December 1814, He died on the 14th October 1867 in Neureut-S, Welschneureurt, Baden at the age of 52 years and was buried on the 16th October 1867.
Johann Michaël was the uncle of my great-great-grandfather, **Johann Michael Clur (1830-1902). (see **Johann Michael Clur – 1830-1902)
Children of Johann Michael Clour and Katarina Raupin
- Johann Michaël Clour (26th December 1804 – 8th July 1813), buried 10th July 1813
- **Katharina Clour (16th September 1806 – 21st July 1848), baptized 19th September 1806,
- Margaretha(e) Clour (23rd July 1808 -?), baptized 31st July 1808
- Eva Elisabetha Clour (7th September 1812 – ?), baptized 10th September 1812
- Georg Friedrich Clour ( ? – 1813)
- Johann Michael Clour (14th December 1814 – 14th October 1867).
- Jakob Clur (16th March 1817 – 19th July 1879), baptized on the 21st March 1817 and buried on the 20th July 1879. Married Catharina Boeuf and their baby, Catharina Clour, was born and died in 1842.
- Barbara Clour (c.1820 – 17th June 1826) -was 6 when she died and was buried on the 19th June 1826
- Magdalena (28th October 1821 – ?), baptized 4th November 1821
- Unnamed Baby Clur (1824 – 13th July 1824)
- Christina(e) Clur (20th August 1825 -?)
Additionally there are records of a relationship between **Johann Michael Clür and a Susanna Catharina Messerschmid (1780 – ?) of Aurich, Vaihingen a. d. Enz, Lks Ludwigsburg, Baden-Württemberg, resulting in a daughter Susanna Dorothea Clür (Chur)(3rd November 1808 – 1874). Susanna Catharina Messerschmid later married Georg Jacob Stengel on the 13th May 1818.
- Records
- Welschneureut Church Records. Pages 296; 476
- Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971:
- Johann Michael 1780-1825
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-7TW1 : 16 March 2023), Johann Michael Clour, 1804; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Teutschneureut, Bezirksamt Karlsruhe, Kreis Karlsruhe, Republik Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-PCCB : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clour, 13 Mar 1804; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-YKQC : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clur, 3 Aug 1825; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Death, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-Q5WD : 16 March 2023), Johann Michael Clur, 1825; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Katarina Raupin
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-G2QQ: 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Katharina Clour, 3 Sep 1854; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Johann Michael 1804
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-449W : 16 March 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Johann Michael Clour, 1804; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Teutschneureut, Bezirksamt Karlsruhe, Kreis Karlsruhe, Republik Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-RFW8 : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Johann Michael Clour, 10 Jul 1813; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Katharina
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDR-4TRN : 17 March 2023), Johann Michael Klour in entry for Katharina Klour, 19 Sep 1806; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Teutschneureut, Karlsruhe, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Margaretha
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-44W2 : 16 March 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Margaretha Clour, 1808; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971,” database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDR-Q83F : 17 March 2023), Rauppin in entry for Margarethe Clour, 31 Jul 1808; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Teutschneureut, Karlsruhe, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Eva Elisabetha
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPD4-YGFH : 16 March 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Eva Elisabetha Clour, 10 Sep 1812; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Teutschneureut, Karlsruhe, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- George Friedrich
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-7T3D : 16 March 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Georg Friedrich Clour, 1813; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Johann Michael 1814
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-KKGP : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Johann Michael Clour, 25 Dec 1814; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-T3WF : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Johann Michael Clour, 26 Sep 1837; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Jakob
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPD1-MSN2 : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clur in entry for Jakob Clur, 21 Mar 1817; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-4YFN : 16 March 2023), Michael Clour in entry for Jacob Clour, 1839; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-FJXV : 19 May 2023), Michael Clour in entry for Jacob Clour, 3 Nov 1839; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-KFG5 : 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Jakob Clour, 20 Jul 1879; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-HK1K : 16 March 2023), Boeuf in entry for Katharina Clour, 1842; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Barbara
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-TF61 : 19 May 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Barbara Clour, 19 Jun 1826; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-3785 : 16 March 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Barbara Clour, 1826; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Magdalena
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-RFKH : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clur in entry for Magdalena Clur, 4 Nov 1821; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Unnamed Baby Clur
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-RFZ3 : 19 May 2023), Johannes Clur in entry for Clur, 13 Jul 1824; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Death, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-H28F : 16 March 2023), Johann Clur in entry for Clur, 1824; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Christine
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-KKT7 : 19 May 2023), Johann Clur in entry for Christine Clur, 20 Aug 1825; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Birth, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-377S : 16 March 2023), Johann Clur in entry for Christina Clur, 1825; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Susanna Messerschmid and Susanna Dorothea Clür
- In Germany, Marriages, 1558-1929. Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M91728-2. System Origin: Germany-EASy, GS Film number: 118458, Reference ID: Ent. 11-D-2. Citation: Susanna Catharina Messerschmid & Georg Jacob Stengel. Marriage: May 13 1818, Wife: Susanna Catharina Messerschmid, Birth: Oct 3 1780 Aurich, Father: Johann Friderich Messerschmid. Mother: Maria Catharina Strohmaier, Husband: Georg Jacob Stengel, Birth: July 22 1779, Hohenhaflach, Father: Jacob Michael Stengel, Mother: Maria Juliana Mueller.
- In Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898. Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C91728-1. System Origin: Germany-ODM, GS film number 1184586. Citation: Susanna Dorothea Clür, Gender: Female, Christening: Nov 4 1806 – Evangelisch, Aurich, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg. Father: Johann Michael Clür, Mother: Susanna Messerschmid.
- In Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898. Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C91728-1. System Origin: Germany-EASy, GS film number 1184586. Citation: Susanna Dorothea Clür, Gender: Female, Birth: Nov 3 1806, Christening: Nov 4 1806 – Aurich, Wuerttemberg, Germany. Residence: 1806 Aurich, Württemberg, Germany, Father: Johann Michael Clür, Mother: Susanna Messerschmid.
**Catharina Clour (1806-1848) , (daughter of **Johann Michael Clour (1780 – 1825)), and **Katarina Raupp, (1818 – 1871)
**Katharina Clour, the second born to **Johann Michael Clour and **Katarina Raupp, was born on the 16th September 1806, baptized on the 19th September 1806, and died on the 21st July 1848 aged 42 years.
I believe, based on the baptism notice hereunder that **Catharina Clour was the mother of **Johann Michael Clur (my great-great-grandfather). He was born on the 18th July 1830 and baptized on the 22nd July 1830 at the Evangelische Kirche Welschneureuth. He was the son of **Catherina Clour and an unknown father. He was presumably illegitimate, as Catherina gave him her surname, however on the page before another baptized baby is clearly marked as illegitimate and this is not the case for **Johann Michael Clur . Catharina was 24 years old when he was born. See also Johann Michael Clur – 1830-1902
The old German text is difficult to decipher but this is what I have made of this text, with the help of Wilfried Visser and my cousin Annemarie Xavier:
26. Am achtzehnten Juli achtzehnhundert dreißig Morgens 4 Uhr ward dahier geboren und am 22ten desselben getauft: Johann Michael Clour. Mutter Catharina, Tochter des ┼ Johannes Clour und der Catharina geb. Raupin von Hagsfeld. Zeugen: 1) Michael Schlaback, Bürger und Zimmermann. 2) dessen Ehefrau Catharina geb. Durand. Welshneureuth den 22ten Juli 1830. Eggly, Pfarr.
26.3 On the 18th July 1830 Johann Michael Clour was born at exactly 4 o’clock in the morning and baptized on the 22nd of July. Mother: Catharina, daughter of the deceased Johannes Clour and Catharina Raupin of Hagsfeld. Witnesses 1) Michael Schlaback, local citizen and carpenter and 2) has wife Catharina born Durand. Welscheureuth 22nd July 1830. Pastor Eggly.
Katharina Clour, went on to marry Johann Peter Grether (Greder/Greter/Groether), son of Georg Adam Grether and Magdalena Brennter on the 5th February 1837. At that time my great-great-grandfather was 7 years old. Johann Peter was born on the 7th June 1809 and baptized on 11 June 1809 in Teutschneureut. After Catharina died he married Susanna Gros. Johann Peter died on the 7th January 1856, just a week before Johann Michael Clour enlisted as a soldier in the D legion of the British German Legion. See also Johann Michael Clur – 1830-1902. Katarina’s sister, Eva Elisabetha Clour, married Philipp Grether, Peter’s brother, in 1841. When he enlisted, Johann Michael Clour listed “Philipp Kroeter” (Groether) as his next of kin.
Children of Catharina Clour and Johann Peter Grether
- Daughter Grether (17th February 1838- ?), baptized 18th February 1838.
- Philipp Jakob Grether (1839 – ?).
- Elisabetha Magdalena Grether (1841 -?).
- Magdalena Grether (1st Sept 1843 – 19 April 1847), baptized 10th Sept 1843 and buried 21st April aged 3 years.
- Christina Grether (23rd March 1846 – 14th June 1847), baptized 29th March 1846 and buried on 16th June 1847 aged 1 year.
- Records
- Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971:
- My great-great-grandfather Johann Michael Clour born 1830
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-H29B : 16 March 2023), Johann Michael Clour, 1830; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- South Africa, Cape Province, Probate Records of the Master of the High Court, 1834-1989″, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGXV-4QJZ : 4 November 2019), Johann Michael Clur, 1902.
- Catharina Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPD1-M57X : 19 May 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Johann Peter Grether, 5 Feb 1837; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-Q5BV : 16 March 2023), Michael Schlaback in entry for Jakob Schlaback, 1867; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Maryland, Baltimore Passenger Lists, 1820-1948″, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK6L-PRPT : Fri Dec 01 20:41:08 UTC 2023), Entry for Michael Schlaback, 1832.
- Johann Peter Grether
- FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDL-JWJF : 27 October 2021), Johann Peter Grether, 11 Jun 1809; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Teutschneureut, Karlsruhe, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Eva Elisabetha Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-4Y7B : 16 March 2023), Michael Johann Clour in entry for Philipp Grether, 1841; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Female Grether
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-PYT8 : 19 May 2023), Johann Peter Grether in entry for Grether, 18 Feb 1838; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Elisabetha Magdalena Grether
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-H2C8 : 16 March 2023), Clour in entry for Elisabetha Magdalena Grether, 1841; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Philipp Jakob Grether
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-HH49 : 16 March 2023), Clour in entry for Philipp Jakob Grether, 1839; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Magdalena Grether
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-MW9D : 15 April 2023), Clour in entry for Magdalena Grether, 10 Sep 1843; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-VG89 : 15 April 2023), Clour in entry for Magdalena Grether, 21 Apr 1847; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Christina Grether
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-L1W1 : 15 April 2023), Clour in entry for Christina Grether, 1847; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-LHL9 : 15 April 2023), Clour in entry for Christina Grether, 29 Mar 1846; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
Johann Michael Clour (1814 – 1867), (son of **Johann Michael Clour (1780 – 1825)), and Katarina Boeuf (1818 – 1871)
Johann Michael Clour, the son of **Johann Michael and **Katharina Raupp, was born on the 14th December 1814 and christened on the 25th December 1814. He died on the 14th October 1867 in Neureut-S, Welschneureurt, Baden at the age of 52 years, and was buried on the 16th October 1867.
There is a record of Johann Michael Clour marrying a Katharina Boeuf (Breuf/Boenf/Böef/Borauf/Bauf/ Boenff/Bamf/Brenf), daughter of Johann Martin Boeuf and Margaretha Barbara Ducke (Dunke), on the 26th September 1837. Katharina Boeuf was born circa 1818 and died on the 25th February 1871. She was buried on the 26th February 1871 in Neureut-S, Welschneureuth, Welschneureuth. She was also 52 years old when she died.
Jakob, Johann Michael’s brother, also married a Katarina (Barbara) Boeuf (Breuf/Boenf) on the 3rd November 1839. She was the daughter of Karl (Carl) Boeuf (Boenf) and Anna Maria Marsch. So the wives of Jakob and Johann Michael may have been cousins.
Children of Johann Michael Clour and Katharina Boeuf
- Johann Friedrich Clour (c.1838 – 28th March 1890) – married Christina Gross.
- One of their babies, Jakob, died in infancy on the 2nd August 1867.
- Catherine Magdeline Clour (3rd September 1839 – ?), baptized 8th September 1939.
- Jakob Clour (10th May 1841 – ?) – married Karolina Wilhelmine Durand (24th March 1841-7th January 1872), daughter of Johann Peter Durand and Wilhelmina Durand, on the 4th June 1871.
- Magdalena Clour ( 1844 – ?), baptized 1844.
- Karl Clour (23rd January 1848 – ?) – married Carolina Dunke (b 13th August 1848), daughter of Andreas Dunke and Carolina Heller, on 25 June 1871.
- Their daughter was Karolina Katharina Clour (c.1875 – 15th April 1876), buried on the 17th April 1876.
- Friedrich Clour (end 1848 – 30 November 1849), buried on 2nd December 1849, he was 1 year old when he died.
- Friedrich Clour (15th October 1850 – 5th August 1871) baptized 27th October 1850 and buried 7th August 1871 at Neureut-S, Welschneureuth.
- Unnamed Baby Clour (c. 1854 – 11 June 1854), buried on the 13th June 1854 – ?Katharina.
- Christina Clour (c.1854 -22th June 1854), buried 24th June 1854 – ? a twin
- Records
- Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971:
- Katerina Boeuf
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDN-V5YN : 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Katharina Clour, 26 Feb 1871; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Johann Friedrich Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-2JWD : 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Johann Friedrich Clour, 28 Mar 1890; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-VGST : 15 April 2023), Johann Friedrich Clour in entry for Jakob Clour, 4 Aug 1867; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Katharine Magdalene Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDB-5ZRD : 19 May 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Katharine Magdalene Clour, 8 Sep 1839; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Jakob Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-W6DX : 16 March 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Jacob Clour, 1841; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-PPF4 : 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Jakob Clour, 4 Jun 1871; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-2TMP : 15 April 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Wilhelmina Karolina Clour, 9 Jan 1872; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Magdalena
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDH-W6PX : 16 March 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Magdalena Clour, 1844; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Karl Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-VGWN : 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Karl Clour, 25 Jun 1871; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Marriage, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-LHB2 : 15 April 2023), Karolina Katharina Clour, 17 Apr 1876; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Friedrich Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPD4-NVTG : 16 March 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Friedrich Clour, 1849; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-2JGF : 15 April 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Friedrich Clour, 2 Dec 1849; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-2RJL : 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Friedrich Clour, 27 Oct 1850; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-KF5Z : 15 April 2023), Johann Michael Clour in entry for Friedrich Clour, 7 Aug 1871; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Unnamed Baby Clour
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDN-VT6C : 15 April 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Clour, 13 Jun 1854; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDQ-FQ76 : 16 March 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Clour, 1854; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
- Christina
- FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPDJ-KBTH : 15 April 2023), Johann Clour in entry for Christina Clour, 24 Jun 1854; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Burial, Baden, Deutschland, German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.